This seems like a good album to listen to on a rainy Friday night (at least it’s raining here).
It’s been a long time since I’ve done one of these – right after I
wrote this
first one, I suffered a leg infection that kept me in the hospital for a
week and threw me off my game for months. And after that… well, no excuses. So,
let’s try it again. Just a reminder, here are the rules for what I review:
- The album will need to be at least two vinyl LPs (which means Jackson Browne’s Running on Empty isn’t eligible). For compact disks, I’ve set the minimum running time at 68 minutes – so I may have a single CD here from time to time.
- Reissues that add to the running time are okay. Cheap Trick has reissued At Budokan in a two-disk version, so that would be okay.
- I’m also okay with reviewing albums that are a combination of studio and live, as long as the live content is more than 2/3 of the total running time. (David Bowie’s Station to Station has been reissued with a full concert from Nassau Coliseum, which bumped the running time up to 135 minutes or so.)
- I’m not going to review comedy albums (most comedy albums are live, anyway) or classical albums (no background in the subject).
Loggins & Messina, On Stage
Year Issued: 1974
Running Time: 82:53
Dates of Live Performances: April
28 and 29, 1972 at Winterland, San Francisco, CA; March 4, 1973 at The Orpheum
Theatre, Boston, MA; March 12, 1973 at Carnegie Hall, New York, NY.
Track Listing:
House at Pooh Corner
Danny’s Song
You Could Break My Heart
Lady of My Heart
Long Tail Cat
Listen to a Country Song
Holiday Hotel
Just Before the News
Angry Eyes
Golden Ribbons
Another Road
Vahevala
Back to Georgia
Trilogy: Lovin’ Me/To Make a Woman Feel Wanted/Peace of Mind
Your Mama Don’t Dance
Nobody But You
Track Listing:
House at Pooh Corner
Danny’s Song
You Could Break My Heart
Lady of My Heart
Long Tail Cat
Listen to a Country Song
Holiday Hotel
Just Before the News
Angry Eyes
Golden Ribbons
Another Road
Vahevala
Back to Georgia
Trilogy: Lovin’ Me/To Make a Woman Feel Wanted/Peace of Mind
Your Mama Don’t Dance
Nobody But You
Background: Loggins &
Messina became a duo/band in kind of a strange way – Messina was a staff
producer at Columbia Records after quitting Poco (the band he helped form with
Richie Furay after Buffalo Springfield broke up), and was hired to produce
Loggins’ first album. But Messina wound up contributing so much (guitar,
vocals) to the album it wound up being called Kenny Loggins With Jim Messina Sittin’ In, and they stayed together
after that. Their second album yielded a major hit in “Your Mama Don’t Dance,”
and the third album, Full Sail did
pretty well too, so a live album was a natural next step.
Obviously, they weren’t rockers (Buffalo Springfield was a seminal folk-rock act, but Poco leaned more toward country stylings, so Messina wasn’t going to bring hard rock to the table, and Loggins was a folkie at this point in his career), but the live album let them show lots of different styles.
Obviously, they weren’t rockers (Buffalo Springfield was a seminal folk-rock act, but Poco leaned more toward country stylings, so Messina wasn’t going to bring hard rock to the table, and Loggins was a folkie at this point in his career), but the live album let them show lots of different styles.
Does It Have the Hits?: Not as many as you’d think, primarily because the live shows used for the album were recorded well before Full Sail came out (the April 1972 dates were six months before their eponymous second LP hit the stores). Of their six chart hits to that point, “Vahevala,” “Nobody But You,” and “Your Mama Don’t Dance” are here, but “Thinking of You,” “My Music,” and “Watching the River Run” are not.
Any Rarities?: “You Could Break My Heart” and “Another Road,” both written by Loggins, appear here and nowhere else. Of the remaining songs, seven of them come from Sittin’ In and seven from their second album, Loggins & Messina, so Full Sail isn’t represented at all (not really a surprise given the recording dates).
Studio Tracks?: None at all. Their fourth studio album, Mother Lode, would be released just six months later, and the running time didn’t allow for any additional material.
Musicians: Loggins on rhythm
guitar and harmonica, Messina on lead guitar and mandolin; both sing and play
acoustic as well. Merel Bregante on drums and backing vocals; Jon Clark on
flute, tenor and baritone saxophone, and percussion; Al Garth on violin, tenor
and alto saxophone, recorder, and percussion; Larry Sims on bass guitar and
backing vocals. No special guests.
Performance: Decent. Loggins gets most of the first side of the vinyl edition (about 40 percent of the first CD) to himself in a solo acoustic performance. Messina’s a pretty good guitar player given he got his start with Buffalo Springfield as a producer/engineer (and wound up playing bass on their final album after Bruce Palmer’s drug and deportation issues made it impossible for him to continue), and songs like “Angry Eyes” make that clear.
Sound Quality: Okay. It’s possible the harmonies may have been sweetened a little in postproduction, but I can’t really tell.
Any Songs Over 10 Minutes?: “Angry Eyes” clocks in at 10:06, which is a bit longer than the studio version, which is 7:40. “Trilogy” is 12:12, but the studio version there was 11:13. “Vahevala,” on the other hand, is twenty-one freaking minutes long. That’s over four times the length of the studio version, and as Wilson and Alroy’s Record Reviews notes, it’s the main culprit of songs “rambling past the point where you can remember what tune you’re listening to.” I mean, the song has both a percussion (conga?) and flute solo.
Stage Patter: Very little other than introductions.
Still Available: Sure. Too bad about the running time; it’s just long enough so that it had to be a two-CD set rather than one.
Chart History: This was
actually Loggins & Messina’s highest-charting album, peaking at #5. It
looks like it went gold (500,000 copies sold), but remember double albums
counted as two sales as far as RIAA
was concerned.
Any More Live Albums?: Lots. Loggins & Messina broke up after their sixth and final studio album, Native Sons, in January 1976. They hadn’t had any top 40 hits since 1973’s “My Music,” and Native Sons didn’t yield any chart hits at all. Columbia Records decided the world needed another double live album from the duo, and so dropped Finale on stores in January 1977, after their breakup had been announced and two months after a greatest-hits set, The Best of Friends, had been released by Columbia. Deservedly, that second live album died quickly, and although it’s available for download, it’s been out of print for awhile (rare on CD, but not on vinyl). I will say only three songs from On Stage are duplicated on Finale, and they are incorporated into a medley.
Loggins released two live albums during his solo career, Alive! (1980), which contains all solo material to that point (a subsequent video release did include some solo versions of Loggins & Messina songs, however), and Outside From the Redwoods (1998), which was mostly acoustic and did include solo versions of “Your Mama Don’t Dance” and “Angry Eyes.” Both of these are in print and available for download.
Any More Live Albums?: Lots. Loggins & Messina broke up after their sixth and final studio album, Native Sons, in January 1976. They hadn’t had any top 40 hits since 1973’s “My Music,” and Native Sons didn’t yield any chart hits at all. Columbia Records decided the world needed another double live album from the duo, and so dropped Finale on stores in January 1977, after their breakup had been announced and two months after a greatest-hits set, The Best of Friends, had been released by Columbia. Deservedly, that second live album died quickly, and although it’s available for download, it’s been out of print for awhile (rare on CD, but not on vinyl). I will say only three songs from On Stage are duplicated on Finale, and they are incorporated into a medley.
Loggins released two live albums during his solo career, Alive! (1980), which contains all solo material to that point (a subsequent video release did include some solo versions of Loggins & Messina songs, however), and Outside From the Redwoods (1998), which was mostly acoustic and did include solo versions of “Your Mama Don’t Dance” and “Angry Eyes.” Both of these are in print and available for download.
Finally, the duo did a reunion tour in 2005 and released Live: Sittin’ In Again at the Santa Barbara
Bowl later that year. No new songs, but that probably meant all of the
nostalgia buttons were pushed. It’s out of print and unavailable for download,
so check the used record stores.
Is It an Absolute Necessity?: If you’re a big Loggins & Messina fan (or even a fan of Kenny Loggins solo, although be warned there’s nothing like “Footloose” or “Danger Zone” here), absolutely. If you’re just getting into Loggins & Messina, this would probably be my second stop after the 2005 hits set The Best: Sittin’ In Again (the 1976 hits set The Best of Friends is short and not especially well chosen, and I think it’s out of print anyway). Another alternative, if you’re a Kenny Loggins fan first, is getting The Essential Kenny Loggins (which contains seven songs from the duo), and then getting this one.
My Favorite Song: “Nobody But You,” which was a minor hit off the first album, and ends this set. It’s not a flat-out rocker, but it’s as much of one as Loggins & Messina would ever release, and it’s much more straightforward than the pseudo-nostalgia of “Your Mama Don’t Dance” and “My Music.”